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		<title>By: Samuel Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.socialevils.org.uk/2008/04/09/individualism/comment-page-1/#comment-223</link>
		<dc:creator>Samuel Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 16:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Individual sense of self and unique purpose contributes to a strong, balanced society - this follows logically from the supposition that a team of members with different thoughts, excellences and weaknesses can achieve more than a team of okay-ish clones.  

Perhaps a selfish individual&quot;ism&quot; is a response to a society that does not respect unique talents and differences of ability or purpose, let alone encourage its members to become aware of what they can do.

Such a society could leave people with an intrinsic awareness that their own interests are not being protected and that they must look after themselves, but not knowing what their selves truly are.

&quot;Gnothi seauton&quot; was the inscription at the temple of Delphi, and it is a command that has more weight than ever.  Know thyself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Individual sense of self and unique purpose contributes to a strong, balanced society &#8211; this follows logically from the supposition that a team of members with different thoughts, excellences and weaknesses can achieve more than a team of okay-ish clones.  </p>
<p>Perhaps a selfish individual&#8221;ism&#8221; is a response to a society that does not respect unique talents and differences of ability or purpose, let alone encourage its members to become aware of what they can do.</p>
<p>Such a society could leave people with an intrinsic awareness that their own interests are not being protected and that they must look after themselves, but not knowing what their selves truly are.</p>
<p>&#8220;Gnothi seauton&#8221; was the inscription at the temple of Delphi, and it is a command that has more weight than ever.  Know thyself.</p>
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		<title>By: June</title>
		<link>http://www.socialevils.org.uk/2008/04/09/individualism/comment-page-1/#comment-214</link>
		<dc:creator>June</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 19:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with some of the comments above that it is human nature to promote and protect the self; however, i also agree with those who have talked about the human capacity to rise above this and come together / support one another. What has happened, such that interdependency is out of favour, whilst notions of self-sufficiency are celebrated? I think that the government&#039;s rhetoric against &#039;dependency&#039; (with workfare policies and stigmatisation of state support) has a lot to answer for in the increase of individualism. This can be seen across other areas of social policy too: for example, responsibility for pension provision being shifted to the individual, or the citizen being re-framed as the &#039;consumer&#039; who should demand their public services. 

What hope is their for the nurture of a sense of community and interdpendence? Perhaps in a quite different area of government policy: the government&#039;s agenda to make all schools &#039;extended&#039; marks an interesting development in this respect. Extended schools are not simply about offering breakfast or afterschool clubs. They aim to put schools at the heart of communities, offering a wide range of other services (including, for example, children&#039;s centres, libraries, adult learning centres, health clinics, parenting classes etc). 

Are these sorts of changes going to impact upon &#039;community&#039;? Might they facilitate local people coming together to support one another?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with some of the comments above that it is human nature to promote and protect the self; however, i also agree with those who have talked about the human capacity to rise above this and come together / support one another. What has happened, such that interdependency is out of favour, whilst notions of self-sufficiency are celebrated? I think that the government&#8217;s rhetoric against &#8216;dependency&#8217; (with workfare policies and stigmatisation of state support) has a lot to answer for in the increase of individualism. This can be seen across other areas of social policy too: for example, responsibility for pension provision being shifted to the individual, or the citizen being re-framed as the &#8216;consumer&#8217; who should demand their public services. </p>
<p>What hope is their for the nurture of a sense of community and interdpendence? Perhaps in a quite different area of government policy: the government&#8217;s agenda to make all schools &#8216;extended&#8217; marks an interesting development in this respect. Extended schools are not simply about offering breakfast or afterschool clubs. They aim to put schools at the heart of communities, offering a wide range of other services (including, for example, children&#8217;s centres, libraries, adult learning centres, health clinics, parenting classes etc). </p>
<p>Are these sorts of changes going to impact upon &#8216;community&#8217;? Might they facilitate local people coming together to support one another?</p>
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		<title>By: David Easton</title>
		<link>http://www.socialevils.org.uk/2008/04/09/individualism/comment-page-1/#comment-213</link>
		<dc:creator>David Easton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 18:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Individualism is the ultimate form of greed.To put oneself first and foremost is the ultimate of selfishness. the only real satisfaction in life is love for your family your friends and yes for your community. It is obvious there is more to be gained by acting together in each othes interests. Individualism taken to the limit can only lead to anarchy. To be truly individual is to be utterly alone. To act in the best interests of your family friends and community will benifit your self.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Individualism is the ultimate form of greed.To put oneself first and foremost is the ultimate of selfishness. the only real satisfaction in life is love for your family your friends and yes for your community. It is obvious there is more to be gained by acting together in each othes interests. Individualism taken to the limit can only lead to anarchy. To be truly individual is to be utterly alone. To act in the best interests of your family friends and community will benifit your self.</p>
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		<title>By: Aphra Tulip</title>
		<link>http://www.socialevils.org.uk/2008/04/09/individualism/comment-page-1/#comment-198</link>
		<dc:creator>Aphra Tulip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 17:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only time i have seen community and people not acting merely as individuals was at a street party for the Queen&#039;s Golden Jubilee. I feel you can be empowered, emancipated and still be part of the community. Protecting your family is one thing but there is little point if there is no world left for them to be in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only time i have seen community and people not acting merely as individuals was at a street party for the Queen&#8217;s Golden Jubilee. I feel you can be empowered, emancipated and still be part of the community. Protecting your family is one thing but there is little point if there is no world left for them to be in.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Green</title>
		<link>http://www.socialevils.org.uk/2008/04/09/individualism/comment-page-1/#comment-195</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 16:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t there a corrollary between empowerment, individualism/anti-collectivism, existentialism and nihalism</description>
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		<title>By: Barrie Singleton</title>
		<link>http://www.socialevils.org.uk/2008/04/09/individualism/comment-page-1/#comment-173</link>
		<dc:creator>Barrie Singleton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 10:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JOSEPH ROWNTREE – ERIC BERNE

Joseph Rowntree called upon us all to seek out the fundamental causes of weakness and evil in society. 
Eric Berne gave us a succinct view of self-and-others; the tool required to achieve the above aim. 

I would assert that (whether evil comes from social incompetence or – if such is your view - from letting the Devil in) its root cause IS weakness; the weakness of the individual. 

In Berne’s terms, weakness amounts to an under-developed Adult ego state* in the psyche; a condition I see as pertaining all over the planet. The two terrible truths of society, are: (1) individual weakness is increasing, and (2) the overcompensating-weak, rise to positions of power. Consequently, any corrective effort must reach out directly to the very young as the Powers That Be are, instinctively, fearful of general empowerment. 

I have synthesised an approach. It can be found  www.barriesingleton.co.uk  as outlined in 1995 to Rowntree. Click on “Visionary Stuff”.

Only wisdom empowers; cleverness is inclined to enslave. Development of a strong Adult ego state engenders wisdom and is vital to individual, family, group, state and world stability. Adult strength is the ultimate answer to every weakness and evil.

* Transactional Analysis    http://changingminds.org/explanations/behaviors/ta.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JOSEPH ROWNTREE – ERIC BERNE</p>
<p>Joseph Rowntree called upon us all to seek out the fundamental causes of weakness and evil in society.<br />
Eric Berne gave us a succinct view of self-and-others; the tool required to achieve the above aim. </p>
<p>I would assert that (whether evil comes from social incompetence or – if such is your view &#8211; from letting the Devil in) its root cause IS weakness; the weakness of the individual. </p>
<p>In Berne’s terms, weakness amounts to an under-developed Adult ego state* in the psyche; a condition I see as pertaining all over the planet. The two terrible truths of society, are: (1) individual weakness is increasing, and (2) the overcompensating-weak, rise to positions of power. Consequently, any corrective effort must reach out directly to the very young as the Powers That Be are, instinctively, fearful of general empowerment. </p>
<p>I have synthesised an approach. It can be found  <a href="http://www.barriesingleton.co.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.barriesingleton.co.uk</a>  as outlined in 1995 to Rowntree. Click on “Visionary Stuff”.</p>
<p>Only wisdom empowers; cleverness is inclined to enslave. Development of a strong Adult ego state engenders wisdom and is vital to individual, family, group, state and world stability. Adult strength is the ultimate answer to every weakness and evil.</p>
<p>* Transactional Analysis    <a href="http://changingminds.org/explanations/behaviors/ta.htm" rel="nofollow">http://changingminds.org/explanations/behaviors/ta.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://www.socialevils.org.uk/2008/04/09/individualism/comment-page-1/#comment-165</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 07:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Individualism - two aspects that I think are covered are shown in the BBC article http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7368877.stm - churches in Java blaming Muslims for problems.

At one level we have a society trying to enforce conformity. If being individual is a problem then these Christian groups are a problem with respect to their local community.

At another level we have increasing distrust between groups. Not just in Java, but people reading here are likely to start distrusting Muslims more and an Us-and-Them attitude is likely to develop. I&#039;ve seen the same in the Hindu groups, some telling me how in the old days everyone got on and Muslims and Hindus would even visit eachother&#039;s festivals but things are more political now. My local temple is trying to bridge the gap by joining forces with a local mosque. I hope something good can come of that.

But then what of being an individual? From the above

  “Individual isolation bringing with it unconscious sense of fear and hopelessness because individuals know they cannot survive alone in a complex society.”

I think it has to be met both ways. Can society be more supporting of individuals? As more people seem to hunker down in their own religious groups maybe not. We&#039;re not as bad as Java by sounds of things but still our major religious institution has a belief structure which is inherently against other beliefs and other ideas. It is a structure which seems to ask you to condemn others based on them not worshipping the right deity. 

I suppose it&#039;s not so bad. There&#039;s still plenty of chance to be involved in society in a more secular way, keeping away from religion. Still, one of our central society groups doesn&#039;t seem too welcoming of individual exploration which I think is something we all need. It&#039;s a challenging one to know how to solve.

On a groups level, the more isolated the groups become the worse things will be. I sometimes feel like getting the local temple and the local church and saying &quot;Just work on this community problem together&quot;. It would reduce duplication of effort. It will get people to get to know more about people of other groups. It would be great to see community projects staffed by people of various backgrounds working towards a common goal, a place that is welcoming even if you&#039;re not Christian where you can see non-Christians feeling welcome and not fearing proselytisation. Where individuals can join in with no feeling of pressure to conform to a belief system they&#039;re not ready to accept because they&#039;ll be in a place full of people of different beliefs getting on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Individualism &#8211; two aspects that I think are covered are shown in the BBC article <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7368877.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7368877.stm</a> &#8211; churches in Java blaming Muslims for problems.</p>
<p>At one level we have a society trying to enforce conformity. If being individual is a problem then these Christian groups are a problem with respect to their local community.</p>
<p>At another level we have increasing distrust between groups. Not just in Java, but people reading here are likely to start distrusting Muslims more and an Us-and-Them attitude is likely to develop. I&#8217;ve seen the same in the Hindu groups, some telling me how in the old days everyone got on and Muslims and Hindus would even visit eachother&#8217;s festivals but things are more political now. My local temple is trying to bridge the gap by joining forces with a local mosque. I hope something good can come of that.</p>
<p>But then what of being an individual? From the above</p>
<p>  “Individual isolation bringing with it unconscious sense of fear and hopelessness because individuals know they cannot survive alone in a complex society.”</p>
<p>I think it has to be met both ways. Can society be more supporting of individuals? As more people seem to hunker down in their own religious groups maybe not. We&#8217;re not as bad as Java by sounds of things but still our major religious institution has a belief structure which is inherently against other beliefs and other ideas. It is a structure which seems to ask you to condemn others based on them not worshipping the right deity. </p>
<p>I suppose it&#8217;s not so bad. There&#8217;s still plenty of chance to be involved in society in a more secular way, keeping away from religion. Still, one of our central society groups doesn&#8217;t seem too welcoming of individual exploration which I think is something we all need. It&#8217;s a challenging one to know how to solve.</p>
<p>On a groups level, the more isolated the groups become the worse things will be. I sometimes feel like getting the local temple and the local church and saying &#8220;Just work on this community problem together&#8221;. It would reduce duplication of effort. It will get people to get to know more about people of other groups. It would be great to see community projects staffed by people of various backgrounds working towards a common goal, a place that is welcoming even if you&#8217;re not Christian where you can see non-Christians feeling welcome and not fearing proselytisation. Where individuals can join in with no feeling of pressure to conform to a belief system they&#8217;re not ready to accept because they&#8217;ll be in a place full of people of different beliefs getting on.</p>
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		<title>By: David Easton</title>
		<link>http://www.socialevils.org.uk/2008/04/09/individualism/comment-page-1/#comment-143</link>
		<dc:creator>David Easton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 20:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man must must be the weakest and slowest among the larger mammals yet is the dominant species on the planet. we became so because  lived first in family groups then in communities.Two species which live indiviual lives except when rearing their young the tiger and polar bear are physicaly powerfull and on the verge of extiction.</description>
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		<title>By: Balletblue</title>
		<link>http://www.socialevils.org.uk/2008/04/09/individualism/comment-page-1/#comment-136</link>
		<dc:creator>Balletblue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 23:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(4) I am happy with Richard’s comments – however if I may continue this thread on the appropriateness of the word’ individualism’ used in the negative – individualism by itself is not bad – how can it be? In conjures up, at least to me: self spiritedness and free thought that rarely go hand in hand with greed. If society decides to cast aside individual expression for a goal akin to the singular betterment of the community then we shall lose inventive genius in both arts and sciences and be controlled by the elitist minority. It is, after all, animal and human nature to look after the self first, followed by the family and then the ‘herd’ to which we belong – one cannot change the instincts of the human species any more than animal instincts or the universe itself. Neither Animal instinct nor human nature created the ‘Good Samaritan’ - it is created either by a deep seated feeling that justice must prevail towards one’s fellow man or by having faith or belief in the perfection of man that is expressed by the love of one’s fellow man. For some there is a desire to work toward the perfection of man as expressed by God. This is truly exemplary in fighting Social Evil. The greatest attribute the human species can be accredited to is the ability to help ones fellow man without wanting reward or gain.... and it is this we should concentrate on – from parenthood through to school and onward into adulthood. It is almost comical, if it were not so sad, that the world, countries, cities, people, families, brothers and sisters cannot get on with each other – there is this herding into groups at an early age – the ‘them’ and ‘us’ – the ‘winners and losers’ – the ‘have and have nots’ are all created at an early age. If we take one example: Palestinians and Israelis – oh, how they dislike each other so intently!  But put a Palestinian and Israeli baby together and they would play – hate is therefore taught! Education can be divisive. Education can be abused. Capitalism is a big word but not big enough not to have faults – it creates greed – the desire to want more than one needs. The whole notion of capitalism is that one person gains at the expense of another – it is intrinsically unfair. And of course the UK is firmly entrenched in capitalism - so why should there be an expectation or desire to help the community? – as this would mean giving away more of one’s wealth – the individual already feels he is taxed enough so quite logically wants to grasp hold onto the remaining pennies he has. We, that is, you, I and our forbears, have created a society that main purpose is wealth generation, self preservation and self gratification with an occasional rare self righteous flutter on the morality of certain excesses of capitalism – yet despite having individual relative untold wealth compared to other countries we are no happier for it. We cannot therefore blame the lonely selfish individual living unhappily in a Clapham bedsit who stares at the ceiling dreaming of winning the lottery for the predicament the United Kingdom is in – as he has merely been shoved into our society and told to make the best of it....whatever he considers that is. No, the big question of ‘Social Evil’ that prevails is a more hidden ‘virus’ than the obvious – defeating social evil means unwinding all the educative strands that greed is made of – the ability to differentiate between genuine need and those sycophants that pretend to need - it is living a life where we genuinely feel we are no greater or lesser than the poor man in a Clapham bedsit or a bird on a branch – it is the innate desire to want to give our time to help ourselves, others and every part of the universe in equal measure –. However our minds are too cluttered to think with clarity – there exists too much false hero-worship that is temporal and fails to create long term self fulfilment and personal joy. The three capitalist gods: Money, Power and Physical Beauty rarely last long – and with them one can be assured that pain will eventually come.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(4) I am happy with Richard’s comments – however if I may continue this thread on the appropriateness of the word’ individualism’ used in the negative – individualism by itself is not bad – how can it be? In conjures up, at least to me: self spiritedness and free thought that rarely go hand in hand with greed. If society decides to cast aside individual expression for a goal akin to the singular betterment of the community then we shall lose inventive genius in both arts and sciences and be controlled by the elitist minority. It is, after all, animal and human nature to look after the self first, followed by the family and then the ‘herd’ to which we belong – one cannot change the instincts of the human species any more than animal instincts or the universe itself. Neither Animal instinct nor human nature created the ‘Good Samaritan’ &#8211; it is created either by a deep seated feeling that justice must prevail towards one’s fellow man or by having faith or belief in the perfection of man that is expressed by the love of one’s fellow man. For some there is a desire to work toward the perfection of man as expressed by God. This is truly exemplary in fighting Social Evil. The greatest attribute the human species can be accredited to is the ability to help ones fellow man without wanting reward or gain&#8230;. and it is this we should concentrate on – from parenthood through to school and onward into adulthood. It is almost comical, if it were not so sad, that the world, countries, cities, people, families, brothers and sisters cannot get on with each other – there is this herding into groups at an early age – the ‘them’ and ‘us’ – the ‘winners and losers’ – the ‘have and have nots’ are all created at an early age. If we take one example: Palestinians and Israelis – oh, how they dislike each other so intently!  But put a Palestinian and Israeli baby together and they would play – hate is therefore taught! Education can be divisive. Education can be abused. Capitalism is a big word but not big enough not to have faults – it creates greed – the desire to want more than one needs. The whole notion of capitalism is that one person gains at the expense of another – it is intrinsically unfair. And of course the UK is firmly entrenched in capitalism &#8211; so why should there be an expectation or desire to help the community? – as this would mean giving away more of one’s wealth – the individual already feels he is taxed enough so quite logically wants to grasp hold onto the remaining pennies he has. We, that is, you, I and our forbears, have created a society that main purpose is wealth generation, self preservation and self gratification with an occasional rare self righteous flutter on the morality of certain excesses of capitalism – yet despite having individual relative untold wealth compared to other countries we are no happier for it. We cannot therefore blame the lonely selfish individual living unhappily in a Clapham bedsit who stares at the ceiling dreaming of winning the lottery for the predicament the United Kingdom is in – as he has merely been shoved into our society and told to make the best of it&#8230;.whatever he considers that is. No, the big question of ‘Social Evil’ that prevails is a more hidden ‘virus’ than the obvious – defeating social evil means unwinding all the educative strands that greed is made of – the ability to differentiate between genuine need and those sycophants that pretend to need &#8211; it is living a life where we genuinely feel we are no greater or lesser than the poor man in a Clapham bedsit or a bird on a branch – it is the innate desire to want to give our time to help ourselves, others and every part of the universe in equal measure –. However our minds are too cluttered to think with clarity – there exists too much false hero-worship that is temporal and fails to create long term self fulfilment and personal joy. The three capitalist gods: Money, Power and Physical Beauty rarely last long – and with them one can be assured that pain will eventually come.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Society</title>
		<link>http://www.socialevils.org.uk/2008/04/09/individualism/comment-page-1/#comment-127</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr Society</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is another blogsite which has being reflecting on these issues in-depth modern Britian since August 2007. Many of the areas picked up in your survey are supported by the Bent Society hypothesis. The recent posts on that blogsite (written by a criminologist) on lies and the love of smart dealing are well worth a visit. 
See: http://bentsocietyblog.blogspot.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is another blogsite which has being reflecting on these issues in-depth modern Britian since August 2007. Many of the areas picked up in your survey are supported by the Bent Society hypothesis. The recent posts on that blogsite (written by a criminologist) on lies and the love of smart dealing are well worth a visit.<br />
See: <a href="http://bentsocietyblog.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://bentsocietyblog.blogspot.com/</a></p>
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