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	<title>Comments on: The decline of the family</title>
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		<title>By: Douglas Nixon</title>
		<link>http://www.socialevils.org.uk/2008/04/09/the-decline-of-the-family/comment-page-1/#comment-328</link>
		<dc:creator>Douglas Nixon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 20:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How I agree with Leo Hopkins  &amp; I also am certain sure thatthe general decline in our society&#039;s moral values &amp; increased criminal activity  ( and I speak of the United Kingdom here) is DIRECTLY DUE to A:- SOME PARENTS  - I emphasize NOT ALL, NOT disiplining their children  &amp; do NOT ask themselves &quot;What IS TOMMY doing NOW out their ?&quot; and some even defend a wrong doing child up to the hilt !!  B:- The people who hava IMPOSED thir idiotic views that a child &quot;should not be slapped&quot;- Utter Poppycock &amp; Bunkum, in my opinion. These examples have DIRECTLY led  to the decline in our society&#039;s  standards, e.g. &quot;YOBO&#039;s stabbing others &amp; increased criminal activity generally.  The do-gooders mentioned by Leo , &amp; I hava had this thought in my mind for some years , ALSO have their share of the responsibility  for today&#039;s daily events which were unheard of in the 1940&#039;s when I- a 77 yrs old early next month - was a schoolboy, except for the infrequent case of murder. C:-  The magistrates &amp; judges who let off leniently &quot;YOBs&quot; when for example  a stranger is disfigured (WHERE ARE the VICTIMS RIGHTS? )  also bear their share of responsibility. Currently, I see on television news, a former prisoner is campaigning the E.U. to change our laws &amp; ALLOW prisoners to vote  !! In my view that is rubbish-What RIGHT have they to vote ?  Douglas Nixon, CINDERFORD, Gloucestershire, U.K.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How I agree with Leo Hopkins  &#038; I also am certain sure thatthe general decline in our society&#8217;s moral values &#038; increased criminal activity  ( and I speak of the United Kingdom here) is DIRECTLY DUE to A:- SOME PARENTS  &#8211; I emphasize NOT ALL, NOT disiplining their children  &#038; do NOT ask themselves &#8220;What IS TOMMY doing NOW out their ?&#8221; and some even defend a wrong doing child up to the hilt !!  B:- The people who hava IMPOSED thir idiotic views that a child &#8220;should not be slapped&#8221;- Utter Poppycock &#038; Bunkum, in my opinion. These examples have DIRECTLY led  to the decline in our society&#8217;s  standards, e.g. &#8220;YOBO&#8217;s stabbing others &#038; increased criminal activity generally.  The do-gooders mentioned by Leo , &#038; I hava had this thought in my mind for some years , ALSO have their share of the responsibility  for today&#8217;s daily events which were unheard of in the 1940&#8217;s when I- a 77 yrs old early next month &#8211; was a schoolboy, except for the infrequent case of murder. C:-  The magistrates &#038; judges who let off leniently &#8220;YOBs&#8221; when for example  a stranger is disfigured (WHERE ARE the VICTIMS RIGHTS? )  also bear their share of responsibility. Currently, I see on television news, a former prisoner is campaigning the E.U. to change our laws &#038; ALLOW prisoners to vote  !! In my view that is rubbish-What RIGHT have they to vote ?  Douglas Nixon, CINDERFORD, Gloucestershire, U.K.</p>
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		<title>By: Leo Hopkins</title>
		<link>http://www.socialevils.org.uk/2008/04/09/the-decline-of-the-family/comment-page-1/#comment-322</link>
		<dc:creator>Leo Hopkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 19:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel too that the family is and has been for a considerable amount of time now attacked by this government. We have seen the scrapping of &quot;working man&#039;s / husbands tax&quot; in favour of dishing out council houses left, right and centre to single mothers whose sole purpouse in life is to pump out as many babies as possible because for each new baby the government gives them money.  It makes me sick to the core that this is the &quot;system we live in&quot; - And then you have those do-gooder social workerd etc, etc who say that you are not allowed to discipline your child. - I mean, sure children are far happier now that they are allowed to do as they please without fear of having their ear clipped by the local bobby. - But then, the prison population is higher now than its ever been before. Teenagers are stabbing in each other in record numbers. What a child needs is a two parent family, and above everything else; DISCIPLINE !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel too that the family is and has been for a considerable amount of time now attacked by this government. We have seen the scrapping of &#8220;working man&#8217;s / husbands tax&#8221; in favour of dishing out council houses left, right and centre to single mothers whose sole purpouse in life is to pump out as many babies as possible because for each new baby the government gives them money.  It makes me sick to the core that this is the &#8220;system we live in&#8221; &#8211; And then you have those do-gooder social workerd etc, etc who say that you are not allowed to discipline your child. &#8211; I mean, sure children are far happier now that they are allowed to do as they please without fear of having their ear clipped by the local bobby. &#8211; But then, the prison population is higher now than its ever been before. Teenagers are stabbing in each other in record numbers. What a child needs is a two parent family, and above everything else; DISCIPLINE !</p>
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		<title>By: navya</title>
		<link>http://www.socialevils.org.uk/2008/04/09/the-decline-of-the-family/comment-page-1/#comment-317</link>
		<dc:creator>navya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 14:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>firstly i disagree with the statement that joint families are better.
they r actually no god compared to the small families.
they ruin the privacy among th esmall family members and relly the life becomes the hell !!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>firstly i disagree with the statement that joint families are better.<br />
they r actually no god compared to the small families.<br />
they ruin the privacy among th esmall family members and relly the life becomes the hell !!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: William B Hammond</title>
		<link>http://www.socialevils.org.uk/2008/04/09/the-decline-of-the-family/comment-page-1/#comment-276</link>
		<dc:creator>William B Hammond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 19:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All of the previous posts have described relevant problems that contribute to the decline in our society. There is however an overarching reason that has not been previously mentioned. It is an indisputable fact that all civilisations wax and wane and finally dissapear, leaving only traces for archaeologists to find. It is a process that has been studied by many historians but most notably, Arnold Toynbee. He spent 30 years writing &quot;A Study of History&quot; of which an abridged version is available by DC Somervell. 

The reasons why decline always takes place is complex, but in essence, it occurs in civilisations that lose a communal understanding. This happens when a civilisation becomes too comfortable, religion goes out of fashion, too many conflicting opinions are held and finally decadence sets in.

We can all see evidence of this everywhere. Television is the equivalent of the Roman Amphitheatre with audiences who are more accepting of extreme violence and pornography. The family is in decline too, and although some see this as the root cause of all our problems, (it is close) in reality it is just another symptom of a civilisation in decline. The vast majority of citizens are now selfish, and this one undesirable attribute is responsible for the widespread corruption that has become a part of everyday life. (The recent banking crises is a good example)

I am not a natural doom monger in my daily life, preferring to seek out solutions to problems that confront me. But sadly I cannot offer a solution to our predicament, and as far as I am aware neither has anyone else. The historians who have studied this repeating cycle of events assert that decline is inevitable. We are living through the American civilisation at present and I doubt many would argue that it is in decline. For the sake of our children I hope all the historians will be proved wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of the previous posts have described relevant problems that contribute to the decline in our society. There is however an overarching reason that has not been previously mentioned. It is an indisputable fact that all civilisations wax and wane and finally dissapear, leaving only traces for archaeologists to find. It is a process that has been studied by many historians but most notably, Arnold Toynbee. He spent 30 years writing &#8220;A Study of History&#8221; of which an abridged version is available by DC Somervell. </p>
<p>The reasons why decline always takes place is complex, but in essence, it occurs in civilisations that lose a communal understanding. This happens when a civilisation becomes too comfortable, religion goes out of fashion, too many conflicting opinions are held and finally decadence sets in.</p>
<p>We can all see evidence of this everywhere. Television is the equivalent of the Roman Amphitheatre with audiences who are more accepting of extreme violence and pornography. The family is in decline too, and although some see this as the root cause of all our problems, (it is close) in reality it is just another symptom of a civilisation in decline. The vast majority of citizens are now selfish, and this one undesirable attribute is responsible for the widespread corruption that has become a part of everyday life. (The recent banking crises is a good example)</p>
<p>I am not a natural doom monger in my daily life, preferring to seek out solutions to problems that confront me. But sadly I cannot offer a solution to our predicament, and as far as I am aware neither has anyone else. The historians who have studied this repeating cycle of events assert that decline is inevitable. We are living through the American civilisation at present and I doubt many would argue that it is in decline. For the sake of our children I hope all the historians will be proved wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: A. Wills</title>
		<link>http://www.socialevils.org.uk/2008/04/09/the-decline-of-the-family/comment-page-1/#comment-262</link>
		<dc:creator>A. Wills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 20:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am concerned that the government removed the Married Person&#039;s Tax Allowance and that parents receive much higher state benefits if they are unmarried than if they are a couple.
This actively discriminates against marriage.  Many couples  would be financially much better off if they were to separate to receive more state benefits.  Yet marriage is the bedrock of a stable society.  Married couples are statistically much more likely to stay together than couples who just co-habit.   Many single parents do a great job in difficult circumstances, but marriage should be supported by the government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am concerned that the government removed the Married Person&#8217;s Tax Allowance and that parents receive much higher state benefits if they are unmarried than if they are a couple.<br />
This actively discriminates against marriage.  Many couples  would be financially much better off if they were to separate to receive more state benefits.  Yet marriage is the bedrock of a stable society.  Married couples are statistically much more likely to stay together than couples who just co-habit.   Many single parents do a great job in difficult circumstances, but marriage should be supported by the government.</p>
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		<title>By: Colette</title>
		<link>http://www.socialevils.org.uk/2008/04/09/the-decline-of-the-family/comment-page-1/#comment-250</link>
		<dc:creator>Colette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 14:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it is a little exaggerated to blame the decline of the family on feminism but ievitably women&#039;s desire for equality has brought about a number of social changes, some of which have had an impact on family life.

Until the 70&#039;s it was pretty much the norm that dad went out to work and mum stayed at home with the children, only returning to work (if at all) when the children were older. Women (quite rightly) wanted to have the same opportunities in life as men and many successfully entered employment areas that had previously been male preserves. Increasingly women did not wish to halt their careers to raise families and so they found ways of juggling careers and babies.

This had a number of effects. First, with both partners working, earnings grew and mortgages became more affordable. Thus house prices increased until we reached the point where it was difficult to service a mortgage on one salary. Thus more women had to work through necessity rather than choice.

The result of so many women in the workplace meant that they were unable to devote as much time as they would have liked to child rearing and thus the erosion of family values commenced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is a little exaggerated to blame the decline of the family on feminism but ievitably women&#8217;s desire for equality has brought about a number of social changes, some of which have had an impact on family life.</p>
<p>Until the 70&#8217;s it was pretty much the norm that dad went out to work and mum stayed at home with the children, only returning to work (if at all) when the children were older. Women (quite rightly) wanted to have the same opportunities in life as men and many successfully entered employment areas that had previously been male preserves. Increasingly women did not wish to halt their careers to raise families and so they found ways of juggling careers and babies.</p>
<p>This had a number of effects. First, with both partners working, earnings grew and mortgages became more affordable. Thus house prices increased until we reached the point where it was difficult to service a mortgage on one salary. Thus more women had to work through necessity rather than choice.</p>
<p>The result of so many women in the workplace meant that they were unable to devote as much time as they would have liked to child rearing and thus the erosion of family values commenced.</p>
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		<title>By: L Hoyle</title>
		<link>http://www.socialevils.org.uk/2008/04/09/the-decline-of-the-family/comment-page-1/#comment-229</link>
		<dc:creator>L Hoyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 08:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Teaching skills is one place to start, but who owns the deeper values and beliefs that give &#039; family&#039; more of a significance than owning the latest Xbox 360 game or similar.

Teaching you people about behaviours, how thoughts and feelings affect these, understanding others perspectives and taking responsibility for there actions. This should contribute to a rounded &#039;citizen&#039; which will impact not only on their family, but their communities.

This is more than emotional intelligence, it builds on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teaching skills is one place to start, but who owns the deeper values and beliefs that give &#8216; family&#8217; more of a significance than owning the latest Xbox 360 game or similar.</p>
<p>Teaching you people about behaviours, how thoughts and feelings affect these, understanding others perspectives and taking responsibility for there actions. This should contribute to a rounded &#8216;citizen&#8217; which will impact not only on their family, but their communities.</p>
<p>This is more than emotional intelligence, it builds on it.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.socialevils.org.uk/2008/04/09/the-decline-of-the-family/comment-page-1/#comment-226</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 08:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From all the work I have done over the past twenty years or more, I can place the fault for todays lack of values at the greed and lack of employment duing the 80&#039;s

My work includes alcohol/drug, homeless people, ex-offenders, children, runaways, and supporting male survivors of sexual abuse/rape, so has covered a wide range of people

The overall impact of no work, no money, and no hope, led many people to become drug dependent, to not care about others and to be as selfish as possible, in order to survive.

When the trend is grab all you can get, and ignore others, that breeds comtempt for others and self, and within that process, respect and honour gets lost</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From all the work I have done over the past twenty years or more, I can place the fault for todays lack of values at the greed and lack of employment duing the 80&#8217;s</p>
<p>My work includes alcohol/drug, homeless people, ex-offenders, children, runaways, and supporting male survivors of sexual abuse/rape, so has covered a wide range of people</p>
<p>The overall impact of no work, no money, and no hope, led many people to become drug dependent, to not care about others and to be as selfish as possible, in order to survive.</p>
<p>When the trend is grab all you can get, and ignore others, that breeds comtempt for others and self, and within that process, respect and honour gets lost</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Goodson</title>
		<link>http://www.socialevils.org.uk/2008/04/09/the-decline-of-the-family/comment-page-1/#comment-209</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Goodson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 15:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My experience as a mother tells me that were I bringing my child up alone, I would be struggling to provide as good a standard of parenting as I can in a two adult family. I don&#039;t like generalising but nonetheless can imagine why it is that a child might fare better with two loved and committed people attending to its day to day needs - (although I don&#039;t doubt that one capable person can do as good a job in the right circumstances).

However, as a woman, I am disturbed by the number of contributors attributing the breakdown of the family and all that goes with it to feminism. I know lots of women bringing children up alone, absolutely none of them have chosen this situation, and more than a few have left relationships which were abusive. Feminism may have contributed to a situation where they were able to leave, but it wasn&#039;t the root cause. A common theme in the nastier break-ups is drug and alcohol abuse.

Feminism is about nothing more sinister than women being treated as equals with men - anyone who can find in that the root cause of all evil in society is part of the problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My experience as a mother tells me that were I bringing my child up alone, I would be struggling to provide as good a standard of parenting as I can in a two adult family. I don&#8217;t like generalising but nonetheless can imagine why it is that a child might fare better with two loved and committed people attending to its day to day needs &#8211; (although I don&#8217;t doubt that one capable person can do as good a job in the right circumstances).</p>
<p>However, as a woman, I am disturbed by the number of contributors attributing the breakdown of the family and all that goes with it to feminism. I know lots of women bringing children up alone, absolutely none of them have chosen this situation, and more than a few have left relationships which were abusive. Feminism may have contributed to a situation where they were able to leave, but it wasn&#8217;t the root cause. A common theme in the nastier break-ups is drug and alcohol abuse.</p>
<p>Feminism is about nothing more sinister than women being treated as equals with men &#8211; anyone who can find in that the root cause of all evil in society is part of the problem.</p>
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		<title>By: John Stanley</title>
		<link>http://www.socialevils.org.uk/2008/04/09/the-decline-of-the-family/comment-page-1/#comment-205</link>
		<dc:creator>John Stanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 19:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The decline of the family comes down to one thing, fundamentally: the rise of feminism.</description>
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